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rewrite this title Reality check: Is passing between Leafs’ Marner, Matthews actually not clicking?

Summerize this News Article If you’re a regular listener of Real Kyper & Bourne, you’ve likely become familiar with a recurring conversation where any time the Toronto Maple Leafs top line isn’t producing at the clip we’re used to, my guy Nick Kypreos theorizes it’s because Auston Matthews is a shooter, and therefore doesn’t move the puck. I push back on that idea, he pushes back on the pushback, and we agree to disagree, neither side moving an inch off his opening opinion. My stance has always been that Matthews does pass the puck both often and well, but he’d be mental not to shoot first when his options are 50/50, or even when they slightly favour passing as the obvious thing, given he’s been the best goal scorer in the NHL since the first day he stepped into the league, including Alex Ovechkin (by goals per game). var adServerUrl = “”; var $el = $( “#video_container-627078” ); var permalink = $el.closest(‘.snet-single-article’).data(‘permalink’); /* if ( “1” == true && ‘undefined’ !== typeof window.getIndexAds ) { var so = {preroll:{1:{1:{siteID:191888},2:{siteID:191889}}}}; adServerUrl = window.getIndexAds( ‘http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?sz=640×360&cust_params=domain%3Dsportsnet.ca&iu=%2F7326%2Fen.sportsnet.web%2FVideo&ciu_szs=300×250&impl=s&gdfp_req=1&env=vp&output=vast&unviewed_position_start=1&ad_rule=1&vid=6339921950112&cmsid=384’, so, permalink); } else { adServerUrl = “http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?sz=640×360&cust_params=domain%3Dsportsnet.ca&iu=%2F7326%2Fen.sportsnet.web%2FVideo&ciu_szs=300×250&impl=s&gdfp_req=1&env=vp&output=vast&unviewed_position_start=1&ad_rule=1&vid=6339921950112&cmsid=384”; } */ adServerUrl = “http://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/ads?sz=640×360&cust_params=domain%3Dsportsnet.ca&iu=%2F7326%2Fen.sportsnet.web%2FVideo&ciu_szs=300×250&impl=s&gdfp_req=1&env=vp&output=vast&unviewed_position_start=1&ad_rule=1&vid=6339921950112&cmsid=384”; var adServerUrl_result = adServerUrl.includes(“cust_params”); var queryString=”; if(adServerUrl_result){ var gettheDUFI = localStorage.getItem(“theRED_loc”) if(gettheDUFI){ queryString += “dufiid=” + gettheDUFI + ‘&’; queryString += “ppid=” + gettheDUFI + ‘&’; var ppid = “ppid=” + gettheDUFI + ‘&’; } var DUFI_IP = sessionStorage.getItem(“DUFI_IP”) if(DUFI_IP){ queryString += “dufiip=” + DUFI_IP + ‘&’; } adServerUrl = adServerUrl.replace(/cust_params=/, ppid + ‘cust_params=” + encodeURIComponent(queryString) ); } $el.after( unescape(“%3Cscript src=”” + (document.location.protocol == “https:” ? 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Despite the early winning record with Matthews and Mitch Marner playing massive minutes, Keefe pointed out that he doesn’t think they’ve really clicked yet: “I wouldn’t say it is executing at the level we have come to expect from them,” he told reporters recently. “It is early, obviously, but some of the passing, in particular, hasn’t been quite crisp and sharp. Execution hasn’t been happening. We have focused a lot on the left winger and who has been with them, but if we just focus on those two guys, it hasn’t been executing at the level we would expect. “They are going to stay with it. They are both working hard and doing good things defensively, but offensively, there are a lot of plays that in the past were connecting that right now are getting broken up.” Nobody’s been watching this team closer than Keefe, and the stats back up what the coach had to say.  Let’s look deep into the passing data for Matthews and Marner compared to other NHL forwards. (Thanks to Stathletes for much of the below.) 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Marner is 11th in the league, with 192, while Matthews is 14th in the league, with 182. It’s safe to say both players are on the ice a tonne and move the puck consistently. The names in their immediate leaderboard cluster are Sidney Crosby, Jack Eichel, Nathan MacKinnon and Nick Suzuki. Very good all-around offensive guys. The two Leafs stars have been in that range for a few years. Two years ago, Matthews was 13th and Marner 12th. Last season, Marner played 80 games, and he was sixth, while Matthews played six fewer games and was just outside the top 20. Because they play a lot, though, it might be more interesting to look at their completed passes totals on a “per 60” rate, so they can be compared more accurately to the rest of the league’s forwards. 2022-23 Rate 2022-23 NHL Rank 2023-24 Rate 2023-24 NHL Rank Marner 84.0 14th 78.1 32nd Matthews 80.3 21st 73.6 46th So, here’s where you can see that Keefe’s point holds up. They’re simply not having the same success they’ve had in the past, with the drop in rate looking substantial. What’s important, then, is to see not just how many they’re completing over a game, but how many they’re completing as a function of how many they’re attempting. And, it hasn’t been pretty. It looks as though both guys are trying to pass it, they’re just really struggling at getting those attempts through, with Marner faring considerably worse this season. 2022-23 Completion Rate 2022-23 NHL Rank 2023-24 Completion Rate 2023-24 NHL Rank Marner 75% 102nd 74.2% 161st Matthews 79% 22nd 79.1% 31st Obviously, the Marner stats stand out here (and this is at all strengths; at even-strength, his completion rate is below 70 per cent),…

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